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ONE IN CHRIST
CHURCH PARTNERSHIPS
SD: Bill, let’s
transition to talk a little bit about the church. The
local churches, the denominations, the church worldwide. How
do you view CCC’s relationship with the church?
BB: Well, we're very much committed to the church. In
fact, we have a policy. Every staff member needs
to be involved actively in a particular local church
within 90 days after they’ve' been assigned to
their position whatever it is, wherever it is. But
in the very beginning we discovered there was great
antagonism between churches. There were walls that were
high and thick and impenetrable. Methodists, Baptists,
Presbyterians, Catholics, Episcopalians had very little
to do with each other, and they hated any group like
Campus Crusade for Christ and Youth for Christ generally,
because we were little nobodies out there in space.
So, we weren't warmly received when we appeared on the
scene, but we began to demonstrate that we had been
called to serve. Campus Crusade for Christ is a movement
to serve others, and when our staff became active not
only the campuses and in the various communities, many
became elders and deacons of their local churches. They
began to see that we really did mean what we said, we
were servants, and today we have the most joyful, wonderful
relationship with denominations all over the land and
around the world. It's so exciting, and many of the
leaders of denominations have either received Christ
through Campus Crusade for Christ or have been greatly
influenced through the teaching of Campus Crusade. So,
thousands of our former staff and students are pastors
all over the world. There are many laymen in prominent
positions who help make decisions that govern our whole
nation and the world who became Christians through the
movement. So, we have so much to be grateful for.
SD: Speaking of
the church, what does it take to develop effective,
inter-denominational partnerships with whole groups
of churches?
BB: Well, I think as
Dr. Bob Reccord, President of the North American Missions
Southern Baptist said, "If we would put our logos
and our egos aside, God could really work through us."
That is happening today. The barriers are eroding just
like the Berlin wall and we’re seeing people come
together from all denominations and saying, let's forget
our differences. Let's concentrate on what we really
believe and agree upon. We believe Jesus Christ is the
Son of God. We believe the Bible is the inspired
word of God. We believe Christ died for our sin and
was raised from the dead and lives within us. Methodist,
Baptists, Presbyterians, Catholics and whomever follows
Jesus generally believe that and we can work with them,
and we reach out to embrace anyone who loves Jesus and
obeys Jesus.
SD: What have been
some highlights, in your opinion, of our close teamwork
with the Church?
BB: Well, we've
had marvelous experience with the Nazarenes where they
and we worked out a partnership to show the Jesus Film
through the missionaries out on the fields of the world,
and I received a letter only a few days ago from one
of their leaders in charge of the whole project saying
it had revolutionized the whole denomination because
they're planting more churches than they've ever planted.
They're seeing more people come to Christ than ever
because of the Jesus Film. We are doing that with other
denominations as well. Chuck Colson and other Christian
leaders asked me to join with them in building bridges
to Roman Catholics. Now, when we started the ministry
in the 70's in Poland, everybody practically was a Catholic.
Ninety-nine percent of Polish people are Catholic. So,
we sent our first Jesus Film in -- I guess it was in
the early 80's. We sent 125 reels, not videos, to be
distributed to the Catholic churches of Poland where
millions of Catholics viewed the Jesus Film and received
the Lord, no doubt. Made a powerful impact. The present
pope, John Paul II, approved all of our materials ???????
when he was a cardinal there in Poland. And to this
very day we work with literally, I’m sure, millions
of Catholics who love Jesus and share the Jesus Film.
We share evangelism, and of course I know there are
some people who say well our theology is not the same,
but you know we can get hung up on peripheral issues.
You know when you think about it, the Baptists and the
Methodists and the Presbyterians, the Pentecostals,
the Charismatics, the Catholics, they have their differences,
but basically we agree on the essentials, and that's
where we are. Our role is to serve the body of Christ,
to bridges of love and communication.
EVANGELICALS AND CATHOLICS
SD: Bill, some
years ago, you, Chuck Colson, Pat Robertson and other
leaders signed an agreement called “Evangelicals
and Catholics Together. Now, that turned out to
be a little controversial. Why did you sign that
agreement and what benefits have you seen come to the
ministry of Crusade and to the whole Body of Christ
from that agreement being signed?
BB: Well, first
of all I remember the prayer of our Lord, John 17, where
He prayed to the Father that we who are His followers
would be one even as He and the Father were one. Now,
we know that within the Catholic faith as in Baptist,
Methodist, Presbyterian so forth, there are true believers.
Our commitment was not to a denomination, not to the
hierarchy, but to Jesus and to the believers in the
church and we have to remember that Martin Luther was
a monk. We have to remember that John Calvin and most
of all the leaders of the reformation had been Catholics,
devout Catholics. So, there are today among Catholics
an even greater number, a multitude of believers. The
Jesus Film is being shown to literally hundreds of millions
of Catholics and there are many, no doubt only God knows,
many are receiving Christ, but we have learned that
we're to do what God says, not what our critics tell
us to do. We love our critics. We say, Lord if there's
any truth to what they are raising, help us to learn
from it and if we're in error, please correct us. We
don't want to ever be inflexible, but we must never
yield to the pressure of our peers. What does God want
us to do has always been our motto, and that we trust
will always be the philosophy of this movement.
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